Curse

majoho · Jul 14, 2006, 01:01 PM // 13:01

Because max stack size is already 250

It's probably limited because it the most you can store in one byte, an increase >255 would mean they would have to use twice as much server space for a stack.

Xenrath · Jul 14, 2006, 01:44 PM // 13:44

That explains it then. Better than nothing, and I hope they add some more storage for a few other things many other players tend to have.

Gonzo · Jul 14, 2006, 02:01 PM // 14:01

I think, with new chapters, new upgrades will follow.

At least, I think that because of the way you upgrade your storage.

Shadow of Light · Jul 14, 2006, 02:06 PM // 14:06

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Originally Posted by Sjeng

As has been said MANY times before: Anet needs to make money like this, because they have NO monthly fees. What's wrong with that? I think they're doing well.

Agree wholeheartedly.

I have no problem shelling out for new campaigns if it means avoiding monthly fees.

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But I totally agree that the storage should have been added to ALL players, with or without Factions, because it is NOT considered to be content, for which it's logical to have to pay.

Well, I'm not so sure on that one. I understand the argument, but Prophecies still gets updated content (eg. new greens) for which people are not asked to pay for. Prophecies people are also able to use items brought over from Factions by other players--which they also didn't have to pay (Anet) for. And items are really what most storage packrats are concerned with.

My only beef with the storage being only available to Factions would be if they promised it would *also* be available to Prophecies (as I hear it was). This would strike me as unfair, and the only justifiable reason to be upset on the issue.

Kidney Licker · Jul 14, 2006, 02:27 PM // 14:27

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I'm just waiting for the complaints to come pouring in about the earth-shattering 300g we have to pay to unlock it for our accounts in full.

I like this update, I have plenty more materials than the storage can hold but hey- it's more space nonetheless.

I find it kinda weird more than anything else. I wonder if A.Net meant for each character needing to unlock the Materials Storage, or if its a bug with the update. Does this point to some sort of personal storage vault for each character in future?

Its a bit of a pain going back to Kaneing or Jing Shea just to unlock storage for each character.

felinette · Jul 14, 2006, 02:29 PM // 14:29

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Originally Posted by Shadow of Light

As I'm sure has been stated already, I would have preferred a set number of spaces in which to store ANY material (even in only stacks of up to 250) rather than one space allocated for each separate material.

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Still, *some* freed storage is preferable to none, so I'm happy in that respect.

Ditto. I tend to have lots of tanned hide squares, bolts of cloth, iron ingots, and that sort of thing. Other materials--not so much. So some of those slots will never be used. On one account right now, I've probably got close to 1000 tanned hide squares--I tend to play professions that use it a lot to craft armor. But still, it's better than nothing, and I'm glad Anet added it.

mqstout · Jul 14, 2006, 03:08 PM // 15:08

Okay, so this is retarded. Why do I have to buy materials storage access individually for each of my characters? That's just a senseless loop to jump through.

So I just moved all of my crafting materials to the materials storage from normal storage, and went over to my Tyrian ranger who hasn't ascended and gone to Cantha yet and, 'lo, I don't have the materials tab. I checked my other characters and each one has to buy it himself! There's NO reason for this.

MSecorsky · Jul 14, 2006, 03:10 PM // 15:10

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Originally Posted by mqstout

Okay, so this is retarded. Why do I have to buy materials storage access individually for each of my characters? That's just a senseless loop to jump through.

So I just moved all of my crafting materials to the materials storage from normal storage, and went over to my Tyrian ranger who hasn't ascended and gone to Cantha yet and, 'lo, I don't have the materials tab. I checked my other characters and each one has to buy it himself! There's NO reason for this.

You have to buy access for each character in the first place, if you recall. It follows that each character would need to pay for the upgrade as well.

Former Ruling · Jul 14, 2006, 03:10 PM // 15:10

A Last Minute change to the storage upgrade was to charge 50gp for it (it was advertised as free at first) - but you have ALWAYS had to buy storage on each character >_> (anytime you make a character, they have to pay their 50gp to access storage right...same here)

BTW, you don;t have to ascend to go to Cantha, just get to Loin's Arch and corss over.

TimeCatalyst · Jul 14, 2006, 03:28 PM // 15:28

So when my character in Tyria (pre-LA) needs materials for gear; I have to login into a character with material storage access, move the materials to regular storage, then log back in with my other character to claim them.

Funny... sounds like the same idiotic hoop-jumping that I have to do with my materials mule.

I just don't see what's so wrong with making it a universal upgrade for accounts that have Factions installed. The money sink isn't that big of a deal, but if it's going to be something as negligble as 50 gold, what's the point of charging in the first place? (rhetorical question). And if they insist on making the materials storage tab an individual purchase, then they should put an NPC in Ascalon city that will only perform the upgrade only for those accounts with Factions.

IMO, it's just a goofy/inconvenient stipulation to a great idea.

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I'm sure having the 14th post on the same subject will make Anet change this to your demands immediately! .......

So... not rallying support when it is historically the best way to get changes implemented is CLEARLY not the right course of action? Am I understanding you correctly?

bpphantom · Jul 14, 2006, 03:30 PM // 15:30

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Originally Posted by TimeCatalyst

So when my character in Tyria (pre-LA) needs materials for gear; I have to login into a character with material storage access, move the materials to regular storage, then log back in with my other character to claim them.

Funny... sounds like the same idiotic hoop-jumping that I have to do with my materials mule.

I just don't see what's so wrong with making it a universal upgrade for accounts that have Factions installed. The money sink isn't that big of a deal, but if it's going to be something as negligble as 50 gold, what's the point of charging in the first place? (rhetorical question). And if they insist on making the materials storage tab an individual purchase, then they should put an NPC in Ascalon city that will only perform the upgrade only for those accounts with Factions.

IMO, it's just a goofy/inconvenient stipulation to a great idea.

No, just wander over to storage, fork over your access fee and access the materials storage.

Former Ruling · Jul 14, 2006, 03:34 PM // 15:34

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Originally Posted by bpphantom

No, just wander over to storage, fork over your access fee and access the materials storage.

You can only pay for Materials storage in Shing Jea, or Kaineng Center. No other towns, so you cant just "go over to storage and pay" A Tyrian born characer has to be atleast at Loin's Arch and visit Kaineng to buy the storage.

Former Ruling · Jul 14, 2006, 03:43 PM // 15:43

"I'm sure A.net will add Storage access guys in chapter 1 places as well."

They themselves said Cantha exclusive >_>

RTSFirebat · Jul 14, 2006, 04:01 PM // 16:01

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Originally Posted by Former Ruling

"I'm sure A.net will add Storage access guys in chapter 1 places as well."

They themselves said Cantha exclusive >_>

They may still do it.

And since that is the case why are people complaining? Go out and buy factions, its a great game.

Swinging Fists · Jul 14, 2006, 04:04 PM // 16:04

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Originally Posted by RTSFirebat

I'm sure A.net will add Storage access guys in chapter 1 places as well.

Um... Factions content. No, they won't.

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Originally Posted by TimeCatalyst

I just don't see what's so wrong with making it a universal upgrade for accounts that have Factions installed. The money sink isn't that big of a deal, but if it's going to be something as negligble as 50 gold, what's the point of charging in the first place? (rhetorical question). And if they insist on making the materials storage tab an individual purchase, then they should put an NPC in Ascalon city that will only perform the upgrade only for those accounts with Factions.

The point of charging is because it is within the context of the game world that you paid 50 to open storage on each char, and now you pay 50 for the upgrade. This 50g is the Xunlai agent's fee. Just like paying to get into UW/FoW.

The NPC's are in Factions because.... it is.... FACTIONS CONTENT !!!!! Can you buy Assassin's armor in Ascalon City ? No. Why ? Because Assassins are ... FACTIONS CONTENT !!!!!

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Originally Posted by Former Ruling

A Last Minute change to the storage upgrade was to charge 50gp for it (it was advertised as free at first)

LOL. When ANet speaks of free upgrades they are talking about real world money. For you to say it is not free because the NPC charges 50 in-game gold pieces, well, that's just laughable.

Sir Skullcrasher · Jul 14, 2006, 04:14 PM // 16:14

materials storage.... love it or hate it, its here to stay! Too bad that peoples who don't own factions won't get this upgrade for their storage.

tommarrow · Jul 14, 2006, 04:27 PM // 16:27

I like that we at least got something towards new storage. What really pissed me off is that I buy a new chapter and merge it with my old and does it give me any new storage after paying for a new game...NO 2 more characters now have to share the storage with the 4 that already exist. This new storage is really just a band-aid to the real problem.
I think it is really stupid that people have to create characters just to use them as a mule to store more stuff. They keep introducing new thing at each new "event" like the bean cakes and yet won't give us more room to store this crap.

/end rant

TimeCatalyst · Jul 14, 2006, 04:41 PM // 16:41

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The point of charging is because it is within the context of the game world that you paid 50 to open storage on each char, and now you pay 50 for the upgrade. This 50g is the Xunlai agent's fee. Just like paying to get into UW/FoW.

The NPC's are in Factions because.... it is.... FACTIONS CONTENT !!!!! Can you buy Assassin's armor in Ascalon City ? No. Why ? Because Assassins are ... FACTIONS CONTENT !!!!!

Well the 50g really isn't all that annoying because like I said before, it's negligible. It keeps with the standard set by the original Xunlai structure so it's fine.

My problem is the accessibility of a useful feature that doesn't directly affect the environment of either game. It would be silly to have Asn and Rit gear in Ascalon simply because Asns and Rits are from Cantha and are paramount to the storyline and content.

There's nothing wrong with having an NPC in Ascalon to purchase storage for Factions enabled accounts because they do similar things elsewhere (LA). Technically, considering your argument of content absolution, NPCs that take you to Cantha in LA shouldn't exist because technically they are Factions content.

It's harmless. I'm going to stick with my original opinion that it's a goofy/inconvenient stipulation to a great idea.

Legendary Shiz · Jul 14, 2006, 04:50 PM // 16:50

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Originally Posted by TimeCatalyst

Well the 50g really isn't all that annoying because like I said before, it's negligible. It keeps with the standard set by the original Xunlai structure so it's fine.

My problem is the accessibility of a useful feature that doesn't directly affect the environment of either game. It would be silly to have Asn and Rit gear in Ascalon simply because Asns and Rits are from Cantha and are paramount to the storyline and content.

There's nothing wrong with having an NPC in Ascalon to purchase storage for Factions enabled accounts because they do similar things elsewhere (LA). Technically, considering your argument of content absolution, NPCs that take you to Cantha in LA shouldn't exist because technically they are Factions content.

It's harmless. I'm going to stick with my original opinion that it's a goofy/inconvenient stipulation to a great idea.

Agreed

Former Ruling · Jul 14, 2006, 05:00 PM // 17:00

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LOL. When ANet speaks of free upgrades they are talking about real world money. For you to say it is not free because the NPC charges 50 in-game gold pieces, well, that's just laughable.

You obviously never read the Sneak Peek of the Storage a few weeks ago.

Where it specifically said, in quite big words (It even had its own FAQ Question and Answer response) that there would be no Real Money, OR Ingame charge for the new storage, they even said It'd be as easay as talking to any agent and just straight acessing the new tab. They made that a HUGE deal a few weeks ago, like it costing no further ingame money has a HUGE selling point on the update - but this was obviously changed before release for some reason. I'm guessing a lapse in thinking, a "brainfart" of sorts. Like the coders "forgot" that the devs promised no charges.

I had no problem paying 50gp though.

EDIT: For reference, this is the original FAQ (Which BTW is STILL up on their main site)

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Is there a charge for the Materials Vault? Will the Xunlai Agent ask for another fee?

There is no additional cost for storage in either real-world or game world currency.

I'm all about calling out whiners that said "Anet promised this or that" with no real proof or their proof is some offhand Gaile comment, but the people complaining here do have valid arguement because this was clearly posted and advertised on their main site. So you can't really fault them for being jaded. Like I said though...50gp is like 2-3 Charr killed so I don't mind at all.